Jimmy Page is a thief

At least, that’s what some people maintain.  Including me.

If you’ve got a couple hours to kill you can read that article or I’ll just draw your attention to Exhibit A below.

I submit, for your listening pleasure, two songs…

The first is “Since I’ve Been Loving You”, a song that appears on Led Zeppelin III and was released in October 1970.

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The second is “Never” by Moby Grape from Wow/Grape Jam, a double-album released in April 1968.

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This one is definitely Page/Plant tag team thievery — Plant clearly borrowed big chunks of lyrics word-for-word and even though the song is a pretty standard blues jam I’d say the slinky feel of it combined with the stolen lyrics makes Page just as guilty.  Shame on you guys.

Word on the street is that Led Zeppelin reached an out-of-court settlement in 2005 on this one, paying Moby Grape’s Bob Mosley an undisclosed amount of money… but still no writing or arrangement credit on the song.

6 responses to Jimmy Page is a thief

  1. John Lathrop says

    Found this on the web:

    The Ghetto Wizard (Banned)
    THE ORIGINAL DOCSHTOR

    Reminder: Jimmy Page is a thief
    * “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” – A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as “traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page,” then “words and music by Jimmy Page,” and then, following legal action, “Bredon/Page/Plant.”
    * “Black Mountain Side” – uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
    * “Bring It On Home” – the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
    * “Communication Breakdown” – apparently derived from Eddie Cochran’s “Nervous Breakdown.”
    * “Custard Pie” – uncredited cover of Bukka White’s “Shake ‘Em On Down,” with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes’s “Drop Down Daddy.”
    * “Dazed And Confused” – uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
    * “Hats Off To (Roy) Harper” – uncredited version of Bukka White’s “Shake ‘Em On Down.”
    * “How Many More Times” – Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin’ Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King’s “The Hunter.”
    * “In My Time Of Dying” – uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan’s debut).
    * “The Lemon Song” – uncredited cover of Howlin’ Wolf’s “Killing Floor” – Wolf’s publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
    * “Moby Dick” – written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title “The Girl I Love,” and later covered by Bobby Parker.
    * “Nobody’s Fault But Mine” – uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
    * “Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You” – lyrics are the same as Moby Grape’s “Never,” though the music isn’t similar.
    * “Stairway To Heaven” – the main guitar line is apparently from “Taurus” by Spirit.
    * “White Summer” – uncredited cover of Davey Graham’s “She Moved Through The Fair.”
    * “Whole Lotta Love” – lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues “You Need Love.”

    Were all stolen and uncredited by page. Jimmy page is a fraud and led zeppelin is a glorified cover band.

  2. duncan hills says

    also based black dog heavily on fleetwood mac’s “oh well”

  3. Mr. Sir says

    Ut is quite shocking, and too bad. why not give credit to the artists. Its hurt
    Jimmy I think, He has never been invited to play with blues elders, like Beck, Clapton, Stevie Ray, and others have.

  4. Adam M says

    First off, I agree that Zep should give credit where credit is due, and if people deserved royalties, they should get them and should have gotten them. However, 1.) it’s not like no one else hasn’t done this or still doesn’t do it (there’s so many examples I’m not going to get into it) Jimi Hendrix covering “Red House,” and people think that is a ripoff of Buddy Guy. When I think of the Dazed and Confused” example, I ask what about the guy who wrote “Hey Joe?” How many people recorded that song in the 60′? (Hendrix, Love, The Byrds, The Leaves to name a few),

    2.) The list has fifteen songs. Each of their albums has like 8-10 songs on it. 3.) Quite a few are well-known covers; it’s not as if it was a secret (for example, “In My Time of Dying,” which sounds COMPLETELY different than the other versions. The vocals, guitar, etc. are pretty damn original in my opinion. I feel the same about a lot of the blues songs, though I understand the blues singers deserve the credit (though again, how many other bands did or have done the same thing).

    To say “Black Dog is a rip off of Oh Well” seems a bit off a stretch. Sure there are similarities.

    Also, people cite “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” as another example. Didn’t they hear that from Joan Baez’s record? Again, not exactly what you’d call a secret.

    Jimi Hendrix covered “Red House,” and people think that is a ripoff of Buddy Guy. Or what about the guy who wrote “Hey Joe?” How many people recorded that song in the 60′? (Hendrix, Love, The Byrds, The Leaves to name a few),

    To say “Jimmy page is a fraud and led zeppelin is a glorified cover band” strikes me as something someone would say who just doesn’t like Led Zepplein.

    What about songs like “Going to California,” “The Battle of Evermore,” “Ramble On,” “What is and What Should Never Be,” “Heartbreaker,” “Kashmir,” “In My Time of Dying,” Achilles Last Stand,” and other great songs from the III through to Coda?

  5. Adam M says

    Yikes, how could I forget “That’s the Way?” My favorite.

  6. Adam M says

    Ah, crap, I mean “Trampled Underfoot,” not “In My Time of Dying.”

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